Post by Copernicus DC on Mar 31, 2005 22:29:54 GMT -5
Given the recent rush of hecklers to the forum it occurred to me that this would be a good time to explain the "blame the victim" tactic that cults use against critics.
In order to distract members from the charges levelled by the critic the cult concocts a false explanation for the person's criticism that makes it the critic's fault.
In chiropractic since the entire system revolves around being successful at ripping people off the charge usually is that critics are practice failures who are somehow trying to get revenge on the profession. This is very useful to the cult because it prevents people from investigating the specific charges (like a thought stopping method) and helps to galvanize the group around the critic.
I noticed in school that everyone about to graduate had an unbelievably sweet associateship deal lined up. If I ever saw them after they graduated, they were invariably getting $crewed, and couldn't wait for the contract to end so they could go into solo practice. I resolved to go straight to solo practice.
After graduation, I noticed that everyone in solo practice who had graduated in the last 10-15 years was struggling or on the verge of bankruptcy, except a tiny percentage who were making out like bandits. These were invariably either fools, who really believed what the PM guys were telling them, or crooks, who knew it was a lie and didn't care. So I couldn't make a living at chiropractic because I couldn't decide whether to be a crook or a fool.
Post by Copernicus DC on Sept 21, 2009 19:26:34 GMT -5
>So I couldn't make a living at chiropractic because I couldn't decide whether to be a crook or a fool.
I wrote nearly the same thing in 2007!
I once believed that I could teach myself differential diagnosis and follow scientific treatment guidelines. Later I learned that this was not possible without exposure to expert faculty and actual patients. Refusing to be a quack or a thief, I had serious doubts about whether to remain a chiropractor.
nmsdc: Sold PI/WC-whore practice, moved to new state, impossible to restart without scamming people with virtually useless treatments for imaginary conditions like all other DCs in this region of chiro-burned healthcare consumers.
Jun 24, 2014 18:14:33 GMT -5
metasin: So I was looking for chiro forums and found this site. So this is where failed chiros come to cry?
Jun 24, 2014 19:58:35 GMT -5
CR Guest: I have a friend who is debating about investing with ML. Seems like ML spews a lot of BS, but appears to make money. Any past investors on here with good/bad experiences? Did you feel cheated? Were you happy?
Jun 25, 2014 9:02:32 GMT -5
Your Conscience: If scamming people doesn't bother you, ML sounds like a good fit.
Jun 25, 2014 15:16:40 GMT -5
Successful DC = cheating DC: Chiropractic should be outlawed. . .like yesterday. I write my legislators to do just that.
Jun 26, 2014 11:28:59 GMT -5
Successful DC = cheating DC: A nurse, a CNA, an EMT. . .all other healthcare workers make more money on average than a typical DC. Chiropractic is a joke! Look up student default rates of healthcare professions. It is an embarrassment & wake up call that chiropractic sucks!
Jun 26, 2014 13:56:16 GMT -5
Sotak: You guys have some issues that have to be fealty with.....
Jun 26, 2014 21:12:58 GMT -5
nock: If chiropractic is such a failure...then why do people feel get better? Its not like the medical industry is setting the world on fire. Diabetes has gone up over 40% and all the leading killers are preventable diseases.
Jun 30, 2014 11:50:50 GMT -5
whatamistake: Nock.... we're not debating that cracking your back feels good or in your words "gets people better". The issue comes back to quack philosophy behind it, and it doesnt matter what the medical industry is doing because they get paid for it and chiros dont.
Jun 30, 2014 12:41:32 GMT -5
nmsdc: Nock, those are irrelevant appeal logical fallacies. Chiropractic is legislated quackery. Chiropractic is pseudoscience. Subluxation is fictitious, like astrology.
Jun 30, 2014 20:16:55 GMT -5
austinholisticdr: As a Chiropractor I simply take the pressure of the nerves and allow the body to heal naturally from within, using my hands.
Jul 12, 2014 20:24:22 GMT -5
science: austinholisticdr..........prove it.
Jul 15, 2014 13:22:31 GMT -5
person: I have had a few concussions, car accidents, played football over a decade ago...and I can say that I was a skeptic of chiropractic until I was adjusted. I had never been to a chiropractor until I got the job as representing a clinic. I had cysts that...
Jul 15, 2014 13:46:54 GMT -5
person: ...doctors couldn't help me get rid of through surgeries and medicine. They always came back. After 7 or 8 adjustments, the cysts have literally gone away. No site of them, and some of these had been there for a solid year....
Jul 15, 2014 13:48:55 GMT -5
person: One cyst in particular was around my belly button and it was releasing puss very frequently. I went to a general doctor, urologist, and a couple of general surgeons and they seriously could not figure out the cause even after my $550 CT scan....
Jul 15, 2014 13:50:42 GMT -5
person: Take it or leave it, but I feel like a new and healthier person for the first time in forever. No stress, more energy, and no more pain. Not to mention the hit and run accident I was a victim of while on my bicycle (hit by a speeding truck)....
Jul 15, 2014 13:52:06 GMT -5
person: I went to Stanford Medical for my facial reconstructive surgery after sliding 20+ feet on my face with my body in a scorpion position and not once did they take an x-ray of my spine to see if there was any damage. Turns out there was a hell of a lot of it!
Jul 15, 2014 13:53:49 GMT -5
The good guy: The science behind the wobble cushion. It's sound science same as the physical therapies used in traditional medicine. It is part of what they call spinal hygiene. The more you move your spine the more it pumps fluid in it. I have read in many places the w
Jul 24, 2014 18:20:38 GMT -5
LogicalBeing: Movement is an essential component of what defines life and its quality and quantity is measured in chiropractic and simply improved. You don't need science to tell you that if you simply allow yourself to think. Adjustment has been done for over a 1000yr!
Jul 25, 2014 11:58:46 GMT -5
LogicalBeing: 3 yrs late but answering Copernicus DC... once you improve movement you do NOT need to stabilise it!!!! otherwise after every yoga session you'd be sitting in an iron cast suit !! only to cause more restrictions!!
Jul 25, 2014 12:02:44 GMT -5