Post by Copernicus DC on Mar 31, 2005 22:29:54 GMT -5
Given the recent rush of hecklers to the forum it occurred to me that this would be a good time to explain the "blame the victim" tactic that cults use against critics.
In order to distract members from the charges levelled by the critic the cult concocts a false explanation for the person's criticism that makes it the critic's fault.
In chiropractic since the entire system revolves around being successful at ripping people off the charge usually is that critics are practice failures who are somehow trying to get revenge on the profession. This is very useful to the cult because it prevents people from investigating the specific charges (like a thought stopping method) and helps to galvanize the group around the critic.
I noticed in school that everyone about to graduate had an unbelievably sweet associateship deal lined up. If I ever saw them after they graduated, they were invariably getting $crewed, and couldn't wait for the contract to end so they could go into solo practice. I resolved to go straight to solo practice.
After graduation, I noticed that everyone in solo practice who had graduated in the last 10-15 years was struggling or on the verge of bankruptcy, except a tiny percentage who were making out like bandits. These were invariably either fools, who really believed what the PM guys were telling them, or crooks, who knew it was a lie and didn't care. So I couldn't make a living at chiropractic because I couldn't decide whether to be a crook or a fool.
Post by Copernicus DC on Sept 21, 2009 19:26:34 GMT -5
>So I couldn't make a living at chiropractic because I couldn't decide whether to be a crook or a fool.
I wrote nearly the same thing in 2007!
I once believed that I could teach myself differential diagnosis and follow scientific treatment guidelines. Later I learned that this was not possible without exposure to expert faculty and actual patients. Refusing to be a quack or a thief, I had serious doubts about whether to remain a chiropractor.
nmsdc: Len has fallen for most logical fallacies. Chiropractic is a placebo-based pseudoscience. Read chiropractics' own literature: Mirtz in CMT.
Jun 12, 2014 14:53:55 GMT -5
Quack: The DC who bought the Harrisons business QUIT MANY OF THE TREATMENTS the Harrisons were known for... The fired Harrisons staff referred Sanghak as a money grubbing quack......
Jun 12, 2014 15:49:18 GMT -5
whatamistake: Len start a discussion on the board not the shout box. It will be a lot easier to read.
Jun 14, 2014 14:52:07 GMT -5
nmsdc: Except that it doesn't; it is a placebo.
Jun 16, 2014 18:52:14 GMT -5
whatamistake: Len, again this conversation should be started in the forum not the shoutbox.But your statement is a classic response by an ignorant person regarding economics, viable professions, and the student debt crisis; all in one.YES YOU SHOULD BLAME THE PROFESSION
Jun 19, 2014 11:39:46 GMT -5
docm: haven't posted in a while, hope all is well in anti-chiroville!
Jun 20, 2014 18:14:10 GMT -5
Dr.scary_poppins: Journal Entry #1: It seems I've come across the internet cesspool collection of failed chiropractors. While I haven't explored much it seems that things are going to get disgusting from here on out. It's not the comments really, it's the smell. It couldn'
Jun 20, 2014 21:47:08 GMT -5
nmsdc: In fact did not fail; collected <$2M in 11 years. Paid off >$125k in student loans. Came to realisation (facts) that chiro is pseudoscience, that it is legislated quackery that wastes everyones time and money. DCs scammed my mother and sister, too.
Jun 23, 2014 13:36:10 GMT -5
dochic: Len-get a grip. Get your head out of the chiro bubble and get a reality check. Fast. I have several friends from my graduating class that are on food stamps, medicaid and just struggling to find a job! Chiropractic profession is garbage.
Jun 23, 2014 21:31:51 GMT -5
Chiropractic should be a crime: Just venting. . .I hate chiropractic. It is the most vicious profession out there. SO many good and smart people got sucked into it now living a sad existence. I feel like a Bernie Madoff victim becoming one.
Jun 24, 2014 16:37:48 GMT -5
nmsdc: Sold PI/WC-whore practice, moved to new state, impossible to restart without scamming people with virtually useless treatments for imaginary conditions like all other DCs in this region of chiro-burned healthcare consumers.
Jun 24, 2014 18:14:33 GMT -5
metasin: So I was looking for chiro forums and found this site. So this is where failed chiros come to cry?
Jun 24, 2014 19:58:35 GMT -5
CR Guest: I have a friend who is debating about investing with ML. Seems like ML spews a lot of BS, but appears to make money. Any past investors on here with good/bad experiences? Did you feel cheated? Were you happy?
Jun 25, 2014 9:02:32 GMT -5
Your Conscience: If scamming people doesn't bother you, ML sounds like a good fit.
Jun 25, 2014 15:16:40 GMT -5
Successful DC = cheating DC: Chiropractic should be outlawed. . .like yesterday. I write my legislators to do just that.
Jun 26, 2014 11:28:59 GMT -5
Successful DC = cheating DC: A nurse, a CNA, an EMT. . .all other healthcare workers make more money on average than a typical DC. Chiropractic is a joke! Look up student default rates of healthcare professions. It is an embarrassment & wake up call that chiropractic sucks!
Jun 26, 2014 13:56:16 GMT -5
Sotak: You guys have some issues that have to be fealty with.....
Jun 26, 2014 21:12:58 GMT -5
nock: If chiropractic is such a failure...then why do people feel get better? Its not like the medical industry is setting the world on fire. Diabetes has gone up over 40% and all the leading killers are preventable diseases.
Jun 30, 2014 11:50:50 GMT -5
whatamistake: Nock.... we're not debating that cracking your back feels good or in your words "gets people better". The issue comes back to quack philosophy behind it, and it doesnt matter what the medical industry is doing because they get paid for it and chiros dont.
Jun 30, 2014 12:41:32 GMT -5
nmsdc: Nock, those are irrelevant appeal logical fallacies. Chiropractic is legislated quackery. Chiropractic is pseudoscience. Subluxation is fictitious, like astrology.
Jun 30, 2014 20:16:55 GMT -5