Chirotalk: The Skeptical Chiropractic Discussion Forum

Chirotalk: The Skeptical Chiropractic Discussion Forum
« Dilemma/Advice Needed »

Welcome Guest. Please Login or Register.
May 20, 2013, 12:29pm

Chirotalk: The Skeptical Chiropractic Discussion Forum :: Questions. Advice and Reports About Chiropractic :: Chiropractic Assistant Forum :: Dilemma/Advice Needed

Author

Topic: Dilemma/Advice Needed (Read 1,196 times)

screener
New Member

member is offline

Joined: Jan 2011
Gender: Female

Posts: 4

Dilemma/Advice Needed
« Thread Started on Jan 10, 2011, 9:16am »

Hello. Thank you for having me on this board. I have lurked here for a few days and have decided to venture in and post.

I need your advice.

I am a Practice Representative for a Chiropractor. I am responsible for setting up all the screenings (Quota: 3 per week), going to all the networking events, actually doing the screenings and will soon be responsible for delivering our patient recruitment class at Lunch and Learns and internally at the office. My job, obviously, is to get new patients in the door.

Though 30 new patients per month is the bare minimum, it isn't until we hit 45 to 50 new patients per month, month in and month out that the doctor is really able to pay me my salary requirements. At first I thought that with my sales talent, this would not be so hard but now I am beginning to be disabused of this idea.

I have decided that this is not the job for me for many reasons (not all chiropractic) and I gave my notice about 6 weeks ago and said I would stay until someone else was found and I insured the person was properly trained and performing.

A few attempts to replace me have been made but no one has stuck and the last person seemed somewhat promising but chose, for whatever reason, not to do the job.

I am concerned I will never be able to leave. I very much like this doctor. I feel obligated to help her as I said I would. I think she is a good person and that she has the intention of helping others.

Though I do think Chiropractic can be quackery and it certainly seems to lack a professional standard, there are people who swear that they went from doctor to doctor in misery only to be helped by Chiropractic in the end. I do see that for those things that Chiropractic can help, they do a good job. I do see people being helped.

Anyway, you are probably thinking, "What advice does she need? What is she asking?"

Sorry, I have so much to say but, anyhow, I am asking if you have any advice on how to replace myself and how to help her the best that I can and not leave her in the lurch?

Thank you for being here.

Link to Post - Back to Top IP:

Logged

candc
Guest

Re: Dilemma/Advice Needed
« Reply #1 on Jan 10, 2011, 10:14am »

Just leave. Tell her/him Friday is your last day and that you have found another opportunity. While you are there, he/she is not as motivated to find someone else. 6 weeks notice is MORE than enough. You are being taken advantage of :-[

. Stop worrying about them. It's business. After you're gone, unless the Chiropractor wants to setup 3 screening per week and 45-50 patients per month - THEY WILL FIND SOMEONE FAST!

I'd be happy if you got me 5 new patients a week

« Last Edit: Jan 10, 2011, 10:15am by candc »

Link to Post - Back to Top IP:

Logged

Dom
Junior Member

member is offline

[avatar]

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 156

Re: Dilemma/Advice Needed
« Reply #2 on Jan 10, 2011, 10:55am »

just quit... end of story...

Link to Post - Back to Top IP:

Logged

screener
New Member

member is offline

Joined: Jan 2011
Gender: Female

Posts: 4

Re: Dilemma/Advice Needed
« Reply #3 on Jan 10, 2011, 11:10am »

Thanks so much for these replies.

I see I possibly should have been more specific.

I was hoping for maybe something a little less destructive. If I just leave it will really disrupt the practice horribly.

Here are some good questions, if you are willing, that might help me to just leave if that is what is necessary.

1) Do you feel that marketing for a Chiropractor is, in itself, unethical? If so, why (I know I should probably lurk more and find out myself so possibly you could just provide a link)

2) Is it wrong for me to try to fill the position because you feel that Chiropractic should be stopped?

I possibly don't have enough facts. I'm trying to be an ethical person and to not just dump a problem on this person's lap.

Originally I was thinking that maybe you knew of some good recruitment pools for such a job or conversely you could tell me that in your experience, it is hard to fill this position and that it has high turnover and then I wouldn't feel so bad. I simply don't know.

Thanks.

Link to Post - Back to Top IP:

Logged

nemo
Guest

Re: Dilemma/Advice Needed
« Reply #4 on Jan 10, 2011, 11:30am »

Give to two weeks notice- that is the professional standard. Then get the hell out of there and never look back at Chiropractic. That's my advice.

Link to Post - Back to Top IP:

Logged

orthican
Administrator

member is offline

Form follows function

Joined: Apr 2010
Gender: Male

Posts: 960
Location: The Great White North

Re: Dilemma/Advice Needed
« Reply #5 on Jan 10, 2011, 1:44pm »

You have noted that you needed to bring in more than 30 new patients before your pay requirements are met. You indicate you have given notice 6 weeks ago and want to move on but will not until the position is filled. You want to be ethical.

Do you think that if the position is not filled that you will want to linger indefinetly there?
Do you think that you have any responsibility to yourself here? Or is it an altruistic goal of yours to do this till it hurts because you care so much for this chiropractor?
If someone wants to leave a place and move on it matters not that you are working with a chiropractor or a janitorial firm. Wanting to leave is wanting to leave. To ask if marketing chiropractic is ethical or asking if chiropractic should be stopped are moot points if you want to move on.
You are making excuses. The longer you stay where you do not want to be the more you will begin to resent yourself for not moving on. Asking questions about the ethics of what you are doing will not ease your mind at all.

But just to be clear.....why is the term "quota" used in the first place??? that alone should answer your questions regarding ethics.....

« Last Edit: Jan 10, 2011, 1:47pm by orthican »

Link to Post - Back to Top IP:

Logged

Wait a minute...pain is irrelevant???

screener
New Member

member is offline

Joined: Jan 2011
Gender: Female

Posts: 4

Re: Dilemma/Advice Needed
« Reply #6 on Jan 10, 2011, 2:03pm »

Jan 10, 2011, 1:44pm, orthican wrote:

Thanks for your answer and you are right. I suppose I feel I need to have a better reason than I just don't feel like working there anymore. It feels irresponsible to me since, in actual fact, I could probably do the job.

The term quota is not being used in respect to the number of new patients. It is used for the number of screenings I am responsible to perform. Whatever that yields, it yields.

Okay, I suppose you are right. I was hoping to find someone to turn this over to so I could feel like I left her better off than I found her. It's a personal integrity issue. I was feeling discouraged that we might not ever find someone to take over.

You are right, I am just making excuses and dragging myself through a job I don't feel like doing so I don't hurt her feelings or cause her grief.

Link to Post - Back to Top IP:

Logged

shoulder0injury
New Member

member is offline

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 25

Re: Dilemma/Advice Needed
« Reply #7 on Jan 10, 2011, 9:09pm »

" I'm trying to be an ethical person and to not just dump a problem on this person's lap."

I practiced for 12 years. Just telling you this for credibility and I'm not just telling you to "destroy" or whatever.

It's not a problem you're dumping into this person's lap. It's not your problem. You never had it to dump. You took a job. the job didn't work out for you. You're not obligated or married to this person's destiny. The fact that no one else will do it says a lot.

you can spend the rest of your life helping keep this person's failing career afloat. OR you can do him or herself a favor and let it fail on its own so that it might lead to something better.

It's NEVER going to get better, only slowly worse. I promise. I waited 5 years for the turn once I saw the tide. It got more and more excruciating.

Link to Post - Back to Top IP:

Logged

screener
New Member

member is offline

Joined: Jan 2011
Gender: Female

Posts: 4

Re: Dilemma/Advice Needed
« Reply #8 on Jan 10, 2011, 9:53pm »

Thank you.

Link to Post - Back to Top IP:

Logged

nolongeradc
Junior Member

member is offline

My avatar got fired from Parker

Joined: Oct 2008
Gender: Male

Posts: 159

Re: Dilemma/Advice Needed
« Reply #9 on Jan 11, 2011, 9:48pm »

You work for a chiropractor, you want to leave, she wants you to stay, don't you know that as a chiropractor she will have you coming back forever.

Link to Post - Back to Top IP:

Logged

Unique visitors (click for coupons from our sponsor Macys)

The entire contents on this Web site are copyrighted. Reproduction without express authorization is prohibited. "Chirotalk" is service-marked (2004). Click Here To Make This Board Ad-Free