The West Hartford Group has been exposed as a quack organization
See Politics section thread on NACM for more information.
The West Hartford Group has been exposed as a quack organization
See Politics section thread on NACM for more information.
Newsflash: Cleveland College of Chiropractic Closes Los Angeles Campus due to low enrollment
Newsflash: Cleveland College of Chiropractic Closes Los Angeles Campus due to low enrollment
Newsflash: Cleveland College of Chiropractic Closes Los Angeles Campus due to low enrollment
?I feel i have morphed into something other than a normal, happy person
because of my profession (chiropractic). I hope kids in school read this site.? ?billogoods, 2011 Feb 8.
"As far as indoctrination, we all believe certain propaganda
and have each drunk our own respective Kool aid"
-Maximized Living Chiropractor Matthew B. Symons DC
Royal Palm Beach, FL 10/23/2010
"I would urge any student in school to take a long hard look at this (site)
and leave if you don't have a sure thing after graduating. (i.e.
inheriting a practice, family is an attorney or M.D. with instant referral source.)"
-bash75. Thread "life after the chiro crash".(click)
Chiropractic claim to extend lifespan disproven,
data shows opposite effect. (Click for link)
"Chiropractic absolutely thrives on the stupid, desperate, and misinformed.
My question is, what should the price for stupidity, desperation, or being misinformed be?
A lifetime of bad credit, a delayed future, and a horrible career choice?" -doctorSJ
Research Shows That Early Chiropractic Treatment Actually Harms Whiplash Patients
"After reading the "skeptical" viewpoints on this forum it has forced me to look
at this profession with a completely different point of view. I had always
had some questions about the validity of certain treatments and the effectiveness
of chiro manipulation in general. Its nice to see there are others with even stronger skepticism
and fierce anger at the profession. -enoughchiro4me, Logan graduate 2003
"I used to hate this board now I know it's true - I'm sorry but it truly is.
These people saved me my marriage and a life of struggling financially"
-Peteydazeuch, former DC student at Palmer College of Chiropractic
Studies show no advantage of chiropractic treatment over physical therapy
in the treatment of acute low back pain
"In the end, my education at National
is ironically what led me out of the chiropractic profession.
My passion was to help people and continually learn and grow,
not to rip people off and memorize a bunch of scripts." -misguided 7/12/06.
"I recently failed out of chiropractic college, yet
instead of feeling sad and dismayed I'm elated and on cloud nine." ?done

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drdarrell: I just read an article in Forbes online regarding Chiropractic loan funding- they ask why. so do I. They gicve the #, as most know the # 1 default- thus the worst investment in ALL of college funding! YET- get this - Logan College paid the PRES $ 791,418 Mar 28, 2014 18:56:25 GMT -5
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Dr. Kiefer: Hey Docs. Let me professional. By way the doc that is misearble being a chiropractor. I sounds like you need to work on you and be more mature. Chiropractic is an awesome profession if you will communicate with you patients. But sounds like you are done!!! Apr 2, 2014 20:58:51 GMT -5
movingforward: Being "mature" and "communicating with your patients will not make this an awesome profession. For those of you who have made a successful go as a chiro, good for you. Unfortunately, the reality for most graduates is ugly - that's all there is to it. Apr 4, 2014 12:11:32 GMT -5
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