The West Hartford Group has been exposed as a quack organization
See Politics section thread on NACM for more information.
The West Hartford Group has been exposed as a quack organization
See Politics section thread on NACM for more information.
Newsflash: Cleveland College of Chiropractic Closes Los Angeles Campus due to low enrollment
Newsflash: Cleveland College of Chiropractic Closes Los Angeles Campus due to low enrollment
Newsflash: Cleveland College of Chiropractic Closes Los Angeles Campus due to low enrollment
?I feel i have morphed into something other than a normal, happy person
because of my profession (chiropractic). I hope kids in school read this site.? ?billogoods, 2011 Feb 8.
"As far as indoctrination, we all believe certain propaganda
and have each drunk our own respective Kool aid"
-Maximized Living Chiropractor Matthew B. Symons DC
Royal Palm Beach, FL 10/23/2010
"I would urge any student in school to take a long hard look at this (site)
and leave if you don't have a sure thing after graduating. (i.e.
inheriting a practice, family is an attorney or M.D. with instant referral source.)"
-bash75. Thread "life after the chiro crash".(click)
Chiropractic claim to extend lifespan disproven,
data shows opposite effect. (Click for link)
"Chiropractic absolutely thrives on the stupid, desperate, and misinformed.
My question is, what should the price for stupidity, desperation, or being misinformed be?
A lifetime of bad credit, a delayed future, and a horrible career choice?" -doctorSJ
Research Shows That Early Chiropractic Treatment Actually Harms Whiplash Patients
"After reading the "skeptical" viewpoints on this forum it has forced me to look
at this profession with a completely different point of view. I had always
had some questions about the validity of certain treatments and the effectiveness
of chiro manipulation in general. Its nice to see there are others with even stronger skepticism
and fierce anger at the profession. -enoughchiro4me, Logan graduate 2003
"I used to hate this board now I know it's true - I'm sorry but it truly is.
These people saved me my marriage and a life of struggling financially"
-Peteydazeuch, former DC student at Palmer College of Chiropractic
Studies show no advantage of chiropractic treatment over physical therapy
in the treatment of acute low back pain
"In the end, my education at National
is ironically what led me out of the chiropractic profession.
My passion was to help people and continually learn and grow,
not to rip people off and memorize a bunch of scripts." -misguided 7/12/06.
"I recently failed out of chiropractic college, yet
instead of feeling sad and dismayed I'm elated and on cloud nine." ?done

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The good guy: The science behind the wobble cushion. It's sound science same as the physical therapies used in traditional medicine. It is part of what they call spinal hygiene. The more you move your spine the more it pumps fluid in it. I have read in many places the w Jul 24, 2014 18:20:38 GMT -5
LogicalBeing: Movement is an essential component of what defines life and its quality and quantity is measured in chiropractic and simply improved. You don't need science to tell you that if you simply allow yourself to think. Adjustment has been done for over a 1000yr! Jul 25, 2014 11:58:46 GMT -5
LogicalBeing: 3 yrs late but answering Copernicus DC... once you improve movement you do NOT need to stabilise it!!!! otherwise after every yoga session you'd be sitting in an iron cast suit !! only to cause more restrictions!! Jul 25, 2014 12:02:44 GMT -5
Norah UK: I saw 2 separate Osteopaths who reported hip joint deterioration. I started NSA and i no longer have any hip pain, no low back pain, i previously couldnt stand for any length of time. My posture has dramatically changed and my core strength dramatically im Aug 6, 2014 19:59:11 GMT -5
Norah UK: improved. This is an incredible healing system and unless you have tried it and given it a full chance then really I dont think you can give a proper informed appraisal. I have found it life changing. I have been given my life back. Aug 6, 2014 20:02:50 GMT -5
Norah UK: There are good and bad practitioners in all fields. I found a practice with 3 amazing practitioners. Osteopathy by comparison is brutal. This is very gentle and profoundly effective.Many things in life we do not understand. That doesn't mean they cant work Aug 6, 2014 20:06:47 GMT -5
Successful DC = cheating DC: I read success stories, from patients, but the field as a whole is pathetic! The student default rate of chiropractic is evidence enough there is no demand for chiropractic. Adjustments may help, but are a tool anyone can learn. Aug 7, 2014 13:47:39 GMT -5
Long Term Chrio Patient : Anyone that's critical of Jesse Jutowitz, has skeletons in his closet. I have had permanent improvement in my spinal condition where all other Chrio techniques did noting but provide temporary relief. I compare him to Galileo. Get with it!!! Aug 14, 2014 8:08:11 GMT -5
thankful: I thank God that I found a chiropractor who had a wellness plan, and educational classes. As I was adjusted and taught, the ailments started disappearing. Chiropractic care is effective, and at a fraction of the cost of the health insurance system. Aug 15, 2014 10:39:05 GMT -5
Dissappointed : I have been very disappointed in the quality of life I have been able to provide for my family. Other professions constantly embrace technology which allows them to better service their patients the chiropractor administers try to sell a sub luxation Aug 15, 2014 10:56:16 GMT -5
Dissappointed : Subluxation 120 years and still searching. The reimbursement in chiropractic is minimal a person better served to obtain a degree in physical therapy state of texas degree physical therapy 28k. Aug 15, 2014 10:58:59 GMT -5
Dissappointed : Physical therapy would of provided better results than your chiropractic adjustment its manipulation not adjustment another scam. Aug 15, 2014 11:00:07 GMT -5
thankful: I'm glad that physical therapy helped you. My chiropractor helped me, too. I can now climb stairs, and arise from the floor without struggling or labored breathing. I can go for a walk, and have the strength to exercise. I was able to return to work. :) Aug 15, 2014 16:50:18 GMT -5
rachel: I totally do think that ML is a scam! I wrote about it here: Aug 16, 2014 16:42:54 GMT -5
Jacque: Hello. Aug 18, 2014 14:52:12 GMT -5
Jacque: Anyone here? Aug 18, 2014 14:52:21 GMT -5
howard: The 'crack' in a chiropractic adjustment represents a joint that was stuck (subluxation,) and is now moving. When it's stuck, it's irritating, and can lead to problems within the joint and nerves around it. Chiropractors correct those subluxations. Aug 19, 2014 6:42:58 GMT -5
nmsdc: Subluxations, cracks, and nerve interference are nonsensical marketing strategies chiropractors use to rip off the worried well. Aug 19, 2014 14:07:45 GMT -5
aches: I think if we were well, we would not be searching for a cure for the pain. Aug 20, 2014 19:56:22 GMT -5
aches: "Worried well" ? If we were well, we wouldn't be looking for relief from neck and back pain. Aug 20, 2014 19:59:35 GMT -5
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